Ep. 284 Isabella Pelizzatti Perego (ArPePe)

Italian wine podcast. Chincin with Italian wine people. Okay. Hello. This is the Italian wine podcast. My name is Monte Walden. My guest today is Isabella Pelizati Perego Perego. So in your family winery is called Arpepe, and you're in the Valentadina region of Lombardy. And you make wines, under the inferno, Grumello, and Cecela, DOCs in the Valhelina. It looks like you have an amazing story and you live in an amazing and very extreme place. Tell me about your, your, your ancestors, your father and your grandfather, some of their stories, and then tell us about your terroir and your wines. Yes. I think Balceline, it's a really unique place in the world. You mean, not so much known as the library in Boston, of course, but we are further north of on top of, Lake Coleman. Just close to the swiss border. And it's a very, very unique place where the one for Canada has been growing since summer. And, our favorite tradition is very long. We are all the future rich or a family using ones in saving sixties. And, we are very proud of this, but we also feel a norm and then also the the responsibility to keep going this way because it's so important. And, Okay. Which wine did you you brought one of your wines in today? Did you to taste? I'll leave it. We we brought tea and I can show it to you today. Thousand and seven. And this wine has been selected by overall wine. And it's also wine that, has been receiving an incredible award from Camaroosa in twenty eighteen as the best grape wine in Italy. So we are you are so incredibly surprised by this, recognition, especially because we are specialized in very long aging minds, and this is what we like to do most. But also, we look, and love the very traditional wines and, we really need it. What's this wine made problem then? Is it a hundred percent? So and, Gavin Nasko is the name that you call Nebula when you're part of Lombardy, and you're you're part of Lombardy. Yes. Kevin Nasko is the local name for Nabeo. He's coming from a dialogue board, Shubinaska, which means more adapter be transported two wines, and this name was invented at yolo. Okay. What would you drink that with when you're at home with your family? What's an ideal local dish from Lombberdee? In Barcelona, we had a lot of buckwheat in our recipes. We had a bucket happens with salt free. We make also make it for later. We do a lot of other recipes, also get a lot of game meat, a lot of special cheese, like the big toe, the Latina Casera cheese, the candy mutton very well. Is that from a cow or from a sheep? It's a cow and goat. We believe percentage of goat, the beetle. Otherwise, the majority are represent house more only, but we also have some special gold cheese that you're in there. Okay. What's, if you have you got the bottle open? I did it because, to raise all six hundred thousand thin. So Okay. Just pour yourself a little little little drip of wine. And, you're gonna do the the the best thing on radio and TV, which is to speak and taste wine and spit at all at the same time. That's that's that's your mission for today. So when you have that as a family, well, I mean, in terms of aging, how many years would you say normally, this type of red wine would need in bottle before you drink it? Well, this bottle, it's already thirteen years old. It's a wine that can be aged, for an extra ten, twenty years and more. And we experience the eldest bottle ever in a dreamy tasting is sixty years old. It was the vintage of our work, and it was still amazing after sixty years. So that is the proof that the the viola from the long time. The young pine, the viola can really last very well. What was your father called and why was he so crazy? They were called the group, but he really love There were in his own, ballet, and he did his best to to proceed in his way. We are here to proceed, his passion. And then I think, in your way, Baltimore still, not quite spoiled yet. There's still a lot of potential to discover. So when you were a little girl, did you all of your work or most of your work in the vineyard is done by hand, very extreme conditions. You're up in an alpine region effectively. How, how many man hours or woman hours do you need per hectar per year to make your We actually need one person per actor per year to do all the work from putting the plan up to the other. So let's say you create more work, and we have roughly fifty hectares now. A day. So it's a lot of, delay orientings, but it it's a really matter of law because we love our land, and that's the only way of working So if you go onto the company website, you think it's a family owned thing and there's like a photo of about seven hundred and sixty people. And I was thinking is this a cooperative or is it a private estate? And, all of these people, I know, I thought it's almost like a football crowd that you have, like, soccer Stadium. And, so really, and all these people each basically have to do only one hectare per year. How steep how steep are the vineyards? The steep are area steep much more than thirty percent. Some places are very, very grung, really like it completely vertical. So if you suffer birdkeeper in some places, you really can't go there. Give me. I have another question. When you go to wine tastings, and you're wearing a white pullover. How do you keep that Killeen during the day? What is your top tip for spitting in a large crowd at a major wine event? Well, you have to be very, very careful, but, I tried to be precise. I'm not always pressing the line, but I thought it was easier to see the colors. Okay. Alright. What would be your, your wish? If you could change one thing about your estate, what would you change? That's a tough question. Maybe to be more brothers and sisters, to be hungry for more energy, more family efforts, to be stronger and be able to make real all these dreams we have in our mind because, there are so many and, we are all each three of us. Of course, there are our wives and husband, and, they can support me a little bit. But, maybe to be more brothers and sister root nicer. One of your favorite flowers, it seems is, the edelweiss, which is a typical flower of the, of the alps because you're obviously quite near Switzerland. Why is that your favorite flower? You know, that is, very special. We have a lot of alpine traditional, so in terms of soldiers. And this was the best gift that, soldier was bringing to his wife or his, a blog. And so it's a very special meeting for us, they need advice because it's, like, the most precious flower that you can find in the area, and you have to fight to get one on the very top of the long time. Okay. What's the most romantic thing that's ever happened to you with a flower? The most romantic It's a long list. Long list, have you? It's so much time is huge. Go on. You gotta tell us. You know, it's it's really critical of, and we can speak about this one or also Yeah. You can set a couple give us a couple of words about about the wine. What we love of the color of our lines is that, it's not so intense. It's a kind of a medium color, but it's a the red, ruby, ruby, every line, every fidget. So we love to see the light to me all the time. I know that I love an expression called crystal clear our minds because there's always a lot of light, you know. Okay. It's about I'm gonna let you taste away. I wanna say thanks very much for coming on today, and, being such a, a warm, person from a very cool area sometimes, extreme conditions. You're looking very fit and healthy. Enjoy the rest of your bottle. And I hope we can meet face to face in the mountains one day. Take care. 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