Ep. 67 Monty Waldin interviews Marco Stenico (Terre d'Oltrepò) | Italian Wine Coops

Italian wine podcast. Chinching with Italian wine people. This podcast has been recorded during Vivite an event organized by the the alliance of Italian corps. Hello. This is the Italian wine podcast with Me Monty Oden. Today's guest is marco Stenico. Marco is the commercial director of the Terre Dupo, cooperative in Brroni. This is in the province of Papilla in the Lombardy region of Northwest, Italy. Marco welcome. Hi. Thank you very much for the interview. Okay. So what is, Otripo? What does that mean? Otopo is, the meaning of Otripo is in the other side of the Poo. On the other side of the beyond the bow. And what is the bow? Po is the the most important river in, Italy. Is the the longest, river. Really? And, you didn't know. I thought the Tiber would be. Yeah. Yeah. That's a pretty big, it's a little bit longer. Alright. Okay. Where does it flow into? The adriatic or the That's a good idea. Okay. So these two side of Italy. So how big is the how many members does your corporate town. Yeah. Our cooperative is, about nine hundred members. And we produce about fifty thousand tons of grapes, and we produce about four hundred thousand liters of wine per year. So what are the wines that you're making? Are we talking red, white, sparkling? Red wine, red, white, sparkling, etcetera. All the kind of, all the kind of wines of a lombardy. Okay. So so the main what are the main red wine grapes? Bonada. Okay. Bonada. And what and give me some characteristics of Bernardo. Is it a light colored wine, a dark wine, crisp? It is a red wine. Mhmm. Spiking edwina. Okay. Yes. So you make a sparkling banana? Yeah. It's a we put in all these sparkling banana. Oh, okay. In the all the power, produce a few liters of after the the tip the one out is the typical wine in a lombardy. So when you say for the dandie, is it, like, really, really fizzy, like a champagne, or is it? No. They have three zero. It's between, the spa ringer and the other anticancer kind of a wine. So lightly sparkling. You say lightly sparkling. Yeah. And what would you drink that with a a banana for Zandie? Because it's a red wine. Right? Yes. So it's a red wine that's slightly fizzy. What is a good match for that? Okay. Let's just in Italy, we have the tortelloni. Avioli. Okay. You know, the poor we produce, we we we hit the Avioli, typical ravioli with Brazato, meet, and there is one other staff at the first, for this kind of, rich So is Bernarda quite a is it quite acidic or is it a very soft grape? Is that a cedar? And, it clean very well the the mouth. That is very good for the for the meat and, fit fatty fruit. Okay. It's perfect. So that Bernard is the is the main red grape. Yeah. And what about, white wine? Any other red grapes? Yes. We got the grapes of is the Cortina. Coratina? Yes. And the second kind of, final ingredient of grapes is a pinonero or pinot mar. Pinot what? We are we are very famous for the pinot mar. And we've been fighting in white in red, and, it was apple. And, it was a So you make it in three ways? Yes. So a white peanut, how when you say a white wine made from peanut, white, is there a little bit of color in there tiny, but a bit very, very few red but very few. It's a real white, and reproduce the metal of classical, metal of champagne was. And we are we are very famous for the metal of champagne was for metal of plastic Italian metal of glass. So how long would that stay on Lease in bottle then? Thirty thirty six a month. Three years. Four four. Twenty four to thirty six. And does it become how does that taste? Does it taste very creamy? Or is it has some red fruits to it? No. It's a little bit acid and the pinot noir is the typical wine that you you don't feel aromatic, big aromatic, flavor, but it's not natural, but, not aromatic. Okay. So what an easy wine to drink? Yeah. In terms of white wine, what have you got for white wine grapes? And we have a rieslinger. We have a big quantities, of riesling. So you've basically taken the best grape from France, been on air r, you know, and the best one from from Germany recently. Yes, but it's real. Do you make tempranillo as well? What is it? It's not famous, but we produced wines from, twenty thousand years ago before trying to doctor or before a financial quarter, they were, there is a company in Autopopovese called Lavera. Lavera is, is the first wine cellar that produce vitaly Metro classical at first of nineteen zero zero. Yes. It's very famous. And that we buy this company. Okay. That's part of your group. Yeah. What makes your terroir so special? You talked about the Po river. Is it very low lying? Are you on the hills? Okay. We have ninety ninety percent of our production is on the hill. My introduce a good wine in the in the valley too, but the most part of our production is on the hill. So you get high you normally get high quality from the hills? The first the first hill is the Penino. That be nice. Start in those properties. And the road war in the south of Italy. So what are your soil types? Are they all are they all formed by rivers, or do you have volcanic soil in as well? Volcanics. So what have you got base salt? The healer. We have the the gates on the healer. So you influenced the talk by the ocean by the either the adriatic or by the tyrenean sea, or is it a very continental way you are? Do you have an influence from the, see what do you get your influence from the from the Alps's climat basically. We have a we are in the middle because we are very close to the hubs, and we are we are very close to the liguria. So that's the taurinean side of it. So it is, our our our territory is in the middle of, winter and, microclines. So you're getting everything. You're getting influence from the ocean, from the Mediterranean. Not awesome, but the sea. Okay. You have you have the sea, the the adriatic. Not on the other side. Did any? Okay. So you get influencing the tauranian sea and from the Alps? Alps. Yes. Did you get very cool nights? We we lose about fifteen degrees, fifteen degrees night today. Is that why the sparkling wines is such a good place to make sparkling wine? Yes. Because we we need the acidity. So the the difference, of the temperature going up very good, the acidity of the wines. We need the acidity. So what about the Italian market? Is that your biggest market for sales? The the market in Italy is very difficult. Why? Because we have two thousand two thousand companies, and, all produce a lot of wine that the competition is very high And, sometimes, it not all not all, work in the the right way. So we need the the other countries to improve our, our volume. So which cut which export markets do you think would be successful for? For us, America. Okay. So in any particular states, like New York or California. New York and the California, and the all the all the side they install is the west. Why? Why? Because we have a good distributor, but we don't sell a lot of, voters, but we sell very well in the channel of, restoration, and, bar and or tackle. So these are are these wines by the glass are these sparkling wines or still wines as well? No. Not sparkling, but we sell. It's a typical typical wine of Fortepo. The name is Sanque de Judah. Judah Judith Blod. Judith is blood. Is a typical sweet and sparkling red wine, and, and very sweetie. Sweetie sparkling red wine. So So it's a light. I'm not saying Lambrisco but in in that kind of More sweet. More sweet than the Lambrisco. And that the people, the American people likes this kind of, sparkling as wheat, and red. Yeah. And that's made with Bernarda. No. Bernarda is is not so easy to sell. Which great variety do you use for the red wine, the sweet red wine? Cortina, hello, Cortina, you you you produce with the Cortina, Bonarda, and the Sango de Juca. For the Sango de Juca, you produce with the thermovinificator, to to improve the sugar in the in the fermentation, and Bonarda, is dry as not as wet. Markamistenico, thanks very much for telling us today about the Territol Trebo cooperative. And, I look forward to tasting some of your, sparkling wines, both the sweet reds by sparkling mine and also the traditional method sparkling mine from Pinonero. That sounds, very interesting. Thanks very much for coming on. Thanks for coming on the Italian podcast. Very much. Thanks a lot. This episode has been brought to you by Vin Italy twenty eighteen. Taking place in Verona from April fifteenth to eighteenth. Vinitale is the wine exhibition that helps you discover and get to know Italian wine and features over four thousand two hundred wineries. Follow Italian White Podcasts on Facebook and Instagram.