Ep. 1083 Gianpaolo Tabarini pt.1 | On The Road Edition With Stevie Kim

Welcome to the Italian wine podcast. This episode has been brought to you by the wine to wine business forum twenty twenty two. This year, we'll mark the ninth edition of the forum to be held on November seventh and eighth of twenty twenty two in Verona Italy. This year will be an explosively in person addition. The main theme of the event will be all around wine communication. And tickets are on sale now. The second early bird discount will be available until September eighteenth. For more information, please visit us at wine to wine dot net. Welcome to another episode of On The Road Edition, hosted by Stevie Kim. Each week, she travels to incredible wine destinations interviewing some of the Italian wine scene's most interesting personalities, talking about wines, the Foods as well as the incredible travel destinations. Hello, everybody. My name's Stevie Kim, and we're back. It's Italian Wine podcast. Mama jumbo shrimp on the road edition. And today, we are here in this magnificent place. So so I'm going to let the president of the consortium of Monte Farco tell us where we are. So first of all, Nice to see you. What's your name? Tell Jampalo. I'm Jampalo for everybody, Fernando. Yes. Jampalo Atabarini. He's the president, the the new new elected president for the consortium of Monte Falco. And we are in, actually, Montefalco. Yes. We are in the yard. We are close by the center. Where are we exactly? What are you what is where is this? Well, this is our museum. We are so proud of, such stuff as you can imagine. Here we're surprised why because here there is been lots of paint. So when you arrive in Monte Fargo, you think, of course, refers to the wine, but Monte Fargo is many other things. Heart too. So there's no better place to have you, Steve. But is this actually a church? Because it kinda looks like a church to me. I'm agnostic. First of all, so I have to tell you. Alright? It's not my rain. I'm not terribly comfortable here. However, it looks very much like a church. It is. It was. You have to know that inside multifaca city wall, there is actually about fourteen church. Not all of all of them today are used as a church. Mhmm. Just few of them, but in the past they used to. And today, this one that was used in the past for the mass, of course, and so on. But today, it's our museum. Thanks to the pain, thanks to all the beauty that you can sure just stick the camera surrounding or around? So would you like to tell us just a little bit about to contextualize where we are? Just a little bit about the church? From where from what period is this? I'm not the right person to give you all those information. I'm a grower. My grandpa told me when I was young that if I study too much, I'm going to be the director of the school. So I So you didn't want to do that? No. So I didn't study so much just to avoid to be a director of the school, you know, grow much better. Right. Exactly. So, Jampala, listen. We to today, we are in list of an event that which is called Anteprima. Is that correct? Of the consortium. And what what does that entail? Anteprima is the new issue. Technically. So we are just cleaning the new vintage of Sacramento that is going to be released next years on the market. So this is just a preview of the wine that the consumer is going to have in the next pages on the market. And Anteprima is just to introduce the new vintages Mhmm. Of all the new vintages of all the producer to the world of, wine enthusiasts. So that's it. So is it usually does it usually happen during this period? No. Or is it is this unusual? That is still very unusual, Stevy. This year, we definitely did change everything. Then most of the journalists asked me What's the difference between previous, events and this one? My answer here is I believe that the right question is what remained the same? Right. It remained the same. Everything is different. Everything is different. Mhmm. Remind the same Montefalco because we are always in Montefalco. Remind the same actors that are the winemakers. Mhmm. That's more or less, are always the same. And all the rest is changed. First of all, we are going to have Antepremain in Montefalco in spring. Usually, it was in February. Right. In the winter. But Montefaca, Humbria is so green that in springtime, it's over beautiful. Everything is going in flower. It's like a paint with a lot of colors So you just goes out from here, you take a look around and you're fully loved. So this is the right moment. It's green. But did COVID have anything to do with it or or not? Not at all. Oh, the you know, No, but yes. Mhmm. So why yes? Because we've been put in jail. So because of the restriction, everybody leave the long portion of their life in the in the houses without the ability to go out, so like being poisoned. So how did this affect the Anteprima? When we quit, when allowed us to escape from our houses, we feel more brave. So we had, the energy, to say we can go by how was. If, you know, Stevi, that Montifaku used to have Anteprima just after Tuscana Anteprima, But pandemic support us saying, it's your time. You can work in your legs. You are able to work even more. You are able to run. So, Montefalco keep on the shoulder, all the anti prima of umbria. So now we are going to have in bring the anti primo of the entire year of February of umria and Montefalco is the leader, the one that made it happen. So we're so proud, we're so happy. It was a lot of time that we want to show that we're brave. Are you enjoying this podcast? There's so much more high quality wine content available from mama jumbo shrimp. Check out our new wine study maps. Our books on Italian wine including Italian wine unplugged, the jumbo shrimp guy to Italian wine, sangiovese Lambrusco, and other stories, and much much more. On our website, mama jumbo shrimp dot com. Now back to the show. So I see I have this here. I'm deepening my the program. Okay. So the release is the two thousand eighteen vintage. Correct. Right? And would you like to tell our audience a little bit about the consortium activities in terms of the number of producers. The territory covers the types of wines that you you produce in this area. Fine. Our consortium is a successful story first of all, Montefaca, Consartio, it's working not only in Montefaca's village, but also in Evania Casteritaldi andiano. Can you just repeat that again? Devania. Hello? Yeah. Castoritaldi. Castoritaldi. Joano. Gualdo. Guado. So it's five different towns, Montefalco, and all the other fours town, a portion of the other four towns. We are spread in a very, small area. In this area, they used to, make wine about a hundred and twenty, a hundred and thirty different wineries. At the consortium, we have, a largest park, about eighty wanna be our members of the construction. So we represent at least the seventy, seventy five percent of the total producer and even more in terms of bottles. In terms of production, what do we do here? Of course, Argentina. That is the the main stuff, the one that make Montefalcon on. But at the same time, you make Montefalcon also. That is a base of San Jose. How, neighbor, it's Tuscany. So we always had sangiovese inumbria. Of course, it's not well known as much as Tuscany, and, obviously, but here, Saniovese came gorgeously. And, of course, we have to give them a name in the past, and the name is Montefa Corrosio. And the last beautiful story is Turbiano's Polladira. Montefalco may show everybody that this territory is not a territory that is able only to do great reds, but is able to do also great white. Wines, and this is not something that happened very often. How many territories do you know in Italy that are able to do great reds and great wine? This is a question to you now. Not so many. I don't know. Actually. Good luck, Christina. I like this answer. I don't know, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I am uncertain that Montefalco is the only area who produces great. At least few, few is fine. Yeah. One of the few. We keep it. We keep it. Done. I read it. Deal. It's a deal. Yes. Deal. In terms of the producers. See. Right? So are they how many I mean, are they ordinarily small to medium or is Are there some large producers? Who when did the consumer SIM activities stop? As every other territory, we have the both. We have a lot of small producer, but we have also few big producer. The beauty of this territory, I'm I'm have a thank you, all the producers that support me, the beauty of this territory, the it's that the big company work together with a small company And we do not feel, the difference between, the one and the other. So the size is not a terms that separate us. So no one of us is looking if you hire a big producer, have a small, we just produce, we work in the same area. We have the same goal. We follow the same person. We trust in the same stuff. So this is multifago. So it's a it's a very unusual, because sometimes, as you know, producer inside the territory used to Quero, not here. Not here. So for the audience who are less familiar with, Sagrantino. Yep. Which is kind of the the signature wind for this area. Is that correct? Yes. You can say that. Right? Saggrantino. So I had the pleasure of being, of course, tasting San Antonio, but I think for especially many foreigners, Sacramento is something very, very austere. Right? Because you you guys always say, I mean, all the Italian wine, x birds. They will say Sacramento is what they call. I love this word anytime. It's See? Okay. Okay. I know what you mean? It's very, angular. So how what kind of how would you recommend approaching Sacramento for those who are unfamiliar with Sacramento. Alura, well, a lot of good questions. First of all, you are right. The Sacramento that was, displaying in the past to the world. It was, a Tarantino that with a lot of masto. So very masculine, very masculine wine. But that was a point of view that was an approach of the moment When the idea of When you say masculine, do you mean, structurally, you know, high alcohol, high body, you know, thick body. All of them. Yeah. All of them. Because, in the moment where Sarantino explored and became famous and popular was the end of ninetieth, beginning of two thousand, where at that time, the fashion was, very deep wine, very huge wine, dark in color, very hokey. And so San Francisco became popular in a in a such period. And he tried to dress himself with clothes that the the really hand, it wasn't the whole clothes of the variety, But it was pushed in such direction because it was right at that time. The point I mean, do you think it was because it was influenced by, I don't know, the the high alcohol you know, Napa driven kind of wines. You said. Right. That is right. It's it's getting my same opinion. But the winemakers, didn't of the heavier, local traditional winemakers, didn't knew the Tarantino as the one who discovered in herbie two thousand. So, the one we was knowing it was exactly the opposite, but, you know, when it is a fashion time, somebody prefer, follow the fashion, but the one is not fashion. The one is tradition. So the the work that you're doing today is just take back the tape and try to to show the movie from the beginning, trying to to tell another tale, the the true one, the real one, because Carantino can be, very strong, very deep, very huge, if you think to the Carantino in a such way, but this is the same for any other kind of wine. If you look to the wine as something that should be more fresh, more gentle, more elegant, it's up to you. The wine maker is like a chef that cook a dish. And with the same raw materials, you can take out different dishes. So what's in your mind? What's in your heart? What you're looking for? This is the real point. So today, the majority of the producer, they keep the they make the whole idea. So they definitely became, mature. So they are not anymore kids. They grow. They are adults. So they are able to keep their own decision by themselves on the right. Way. This is what is happening in Multipark. So, the the the serpentino, we knew in the past. It was just, just the flesh. The flesh that has just disappeared because the one that you are going to be today is so far away from the past that that make you a surprise anytime you try. We hope you enjoy today's episode brought to you by the wine to wine business forum twenty twenty two. This year, we'll mark the ninth edition of the forum to be held on November seventh and eighth twenty twenty two in verona Italy. Remember, the second early bird discount on tickets will be available until September eighteenth. For more information, please visit us at wine to wine dot net. Hi, guys. 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