Ep. 1099 Giampaolo Tabarini Pt. 3 | On The Road Edition With Stevie Kim

Welcome to the Italian wine podcast. This episode has been brought to you by the wine to wine business forum twenty twenty two. This year, we'll mark the ninth edition of the forum to be held on November seventh and eighth of twenty twenty two in Verona Italy. This year will be an exclusively in person edition. The main theme of the event will be all around wine communication. Tickets are on sale now. So for more information, please visit us at wine to wine dot net. Welcome to another episode of On The Road Edition, hosted by Stevie Kim. Each week, she travels to incredible wine destinations, interviewing some of the Italian wine scene's most interesting personalities, talking about wines, the foods, as well as the incredible travel destinations. So we're back with, of course, mister Cabarini, who's the president of, the consorca of Monteca. Js. We now know that is the king of a black, yeah, everything, but especially black truffles and the salted version of prosciutto. That's what we've learned from the previous episode, but now what I would love to talk to, him about is the white wines. Right? Perhaps the white wines are, even lesser known, right, than Sacramento. So in general, one, what kind of grapes are produced? White grapes are produced in, in Monte Fargo in this area. And what kind of wines do they produce? Let me say that in this area, we produce different kind of, white grapes like a gregeto, and so on. But in the last period, talking about the last twenty, twenty five years, thanks to the efforts of few producers, very few. We rediscover, to be honest with you in a grape. That's just a lost grape. We actually did a a special by the way, I don't know if it went on it went live today. We did a special pizza, and food pairing. See. At the office with my colleagues, and we paired one, spolatino. And it was amazing. Well, it was a special kind of spolatino. Anyways, go ahead. Anyway, Treviano's policy, you know, it was the variety that Luke has very involved on the research just to preserve, but this variety that was the last grape, mostly because of the name Trebiano. Treviano, when you say Trebiano, in Italy, everybody think to Trebiano, begging the box for the French. It's so good that it's still it. I think it they still call it uni Blanc. Right. The meat plant is the Traviano. Tascan. Same stuff. So when we say Traviano, we start to scare people because they immediately think, oh, it's garbage. We're talking about No. This is not a point. There's many tourbillon. This is a tourbillon. It's part of the other tourbillon. That was a beauty in the last years. It's so nice, really scooper. And when before we was talking that It's every day he's able to be able to do great red and great, whites. Is it just, like, just days? So to make a great red, you need a lot of sun. To make a great wine, you need a cool weather. How you can do the both? And it's actually Can you just repeat that one more time? To make a good red. Mhmm. You need all the sun. A lot of sunshine and warmness, to make fibers. Right? Because you need sugar and the sugar for the alkaline. Right? The the black grapes, the black skin of the, on the, the the the grapes. Into the white wines, it's better to have cold filter either to preserve freshness and acid things. So how the both can happen in the same territory? Right. It happened in multi cycle only because the happenings, when dropped down from the peninsula, they exactly modify coheria, make a cycle, and they drop down ringing. So that we are in the middle of a ring or mounted. So in and in in the middle of this, ring, there is a needle that is multifocal. So because we are on the central part of Italy, we have a little bit of an electromagnetic condition. Mhmm. So it's very hard. But at the same time, when the sun goes down, because we're surrounded by the mountain, so it gets cool. So we have also continued our climatic condition. So it's a territory where you have a medical and traumatic condition and containment for climatic condition. The both of them meet each other, you know. But is it also because of the diurnal range, which is very the the day temperature and the night temperature? Exactly. Yes. During the day, it's extremely hot. Tonight, you stay here with us. We are with shirts, but in a couple of hours, three hours, we have to first check. Right. And maybe even later, something else on on top. So you are able to produce also fresh crispy white wine. Yeah. So which lee which leads me to ask you, do you all does this mean also that you can produce sparkling wines? Yes. This is another nice thing. Sparkling wine with her grandma's Polyzema would be amazing, especially because, yes, acidity, correctness, all the of the futures you display. So, okay, but Spolletino, okay, is a small production. Is that correct? View. Right? So mostly the the in the grand scheme of things, is it? Yes. You will write too because we have also the Montecobianco. Montecobianco is a blend. It's a blend of, Gregcate Treviano toscano, and, they're so far away. Trebiano's Palatino have a very late harvest. Trebiano toscano is going to be, like, Greg. It's going to be harvested, early September. So we're talking completely or two different wines. And then there is also different kind of engine because manual user, for example, they age the Montefa Cabianco or a little bit of hitting the wood. So there is different, viewing terms, while I'm making process of Montefa Cabianco. How do you get to Montefaica? Are you flying to Rome or, tuscan, to Florence, I guess? Oh, you may fly to the both because we are exactly from, at the same distance from the both. So you will spend, one hours and forty minutes from Rome, and you spend, a couple of hours from Florence. Of course, flying from Rome is much more comfortable because you there's much more flights in Rome instead in, in Florence. But the both of them are so, so close by. We have also an airport in Pelegusa better in Assissi. Mhmm. Same franchise, sir, pork. Are you enjoying this podcast? There is so much more high quality wine content available for mama jumbo shrimp. Check out our new wine study maps or books on Italian wine, including Italian wine unplugged, and much much more. Just visit our website, mama jumbo shrimp dot com. Now back to the show. It's not Very small. Right. It's very small. It's not yet. It's not international. It's not international. We are, trying to develop, as more as possible the airport, but it's not going to happen. So don't look for a flight. Just fly to Rome. It's easier. When people come to move to five go first of all, do the wineries. You said seven two, right? Yeah. Long to the consortiums? Yeah. The seven two. How many of them have hospitality? One in terms of, of course, the easy way to, receive clients or mind lovers is, you know, of course, they do the guided tour and then they do a a small tasting. But how many of them have also hospitality in terms of places where they can sleep, have a have a meal, etcetera? In terms of place where you can sleep, we are not, so well, organized as many other territories. So there's just few wineries that can host people at the winery because they have rooms. Mhmm. In terms of food, Some of them arrange, lunch and dinners at at the winery. They used to be open. Many of them arrange wine tasting, wine tours, wine pairing. With local, local food. So the most of them are ready to make a tasting and parry. Of course, that's winery that are much more well organized. So they have a bar. They have tables. And they have out there are house. Other wires that probably cannot do the same because they work in the house. Right. And but anyway, they have their own kitchen, and in their kitchen, they host guests. So I just nice too. Even after a movie. Yeah. I I absolutely agreed. I I guess my question was, is one to five go? I I look at Vinet's sleeve. Right? You know, I work, I work for a Vinet's sleeve and during Vinet's sleeve. There's so many people coming into Verona outside of town, and there aren't enough rooms for everyone to sleep. Sleep. Right? So they have to go outside. So I guess my question more is Monte Fago, if the the the tourists or guests or wine lovers, they decide to come and visit your winery, where do they sleep? Did they sleep in town, Montete Fago? Are there enough, I guess, hotel beds? Or what are the options? I guess that's my question. Good question. So we have, of course, hotels, just few, not so many. Right. But we have we are plenty Oh, beautiful agriculturalismo and DMV. Agri trees. So we are plenty of such stuff because everybody restore, the own properties that was, on the countryside in the middle of the holy trees in the middle of the field of the vineyard. They they all of them, they have very nice property because there are historical building that being perfectly restored. Stay, you know, please like that. I believe it's ten times better than a cool, the hotel rooms. So you can enjoy the real life, into an and there is the other two. Just a couple. Right. So, you are the new president recently. You've just been elected recently. Right? Yeah. How how long is your mandate? Well, I I last for three years. Three years. We hope that they run very fast because that's such a nice job. So, yeah, we are in charge, for for free here. And, during the three years, you've filled out all the things you have in mind. So that's my exactly my question. When when did the consortium first stop? When was when was it established? We started, if I do not from the end of it is. Okay. So now we're we are two thousand and twenty two. Yep. You know? K. So after forty years, what are your ambitions? Like, in the perfect world, what would you like to accomplish during your mandate. I would like Within this next three years, what would you like to do for the consortiums of Monte Fargo? I would like to describe my hometown has never been described. I would like to show my house as it is. I know where I was born. I know how beautiful it is my my house, and how know how great and workers and nice personnel, the winemaker I didn't work with. So I want to move on the file call to the level that Motefoto deserve. It's possible. Do it. It's, it it's it's in our view. The point is that I don't wanna waste any time. I want to make it happen as possible. Because all my friends winemaker, they are totally working from years, and it's time that they get what they deserve as I told you. So it sounds all great, what you just said. But, How are you going to make this happen in in in a practical way? That's that's I I've been that's the real I've been hired as a president just five years ago. And just from the next day, we start to change everything. First things we keep to us, of course, the bonds. Like, let me see the bills. Mhmm. Fix it. Then who's the workers? Fix it? Who's the events we do? Right to fix it? And now all the other trouble, fix it. And I don't wanna waste time to fix the matter and fix the problem. Mhmm. So So you are, you want to react quickly. I I have. Accelerate. I have. So Since a certain point, we decide that the company should be two point zero. Now we're talking that the company should be four point zero. Montefalco didn't yet talk about that. So I want to move Montefalco directly to fifteen point zero. I wanna jump all the rest, move it to fifteen point zero, and then everybody will look to Monte Fargo to copy Monte Fargo. It's I'm not saying bullshit. I know. I'm I'm not saying something that is over than our ability. I'm seeing what I'm really thinking that is possible to do. So I really believe in what I say. Listen. Well, good luck to you. Oh, thank you. I really need. Okay? Yeah. I think you have great energy. And definitely, new type of energy and especially, you know, when we think of consortiums often, we think of very in a way institutional. Okay. You're definitely something very different. So I look forward to this. And that's a wrap coming from MonteFA with mister Cabarini, who is the president of the consortium of MonteFA. Thank you, everybody. We hope you enjoy today's episode brought to you by the wine to wine business forum twenty twenty two. This year, we'll mark the ninth edition of the forum to be held on November seventh and eighth twenty twenty two in verona Italy. Remember tickets are on sale now. So for more information, please visit us at wine to wine dot net. Hi, guys. 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