Ep. 1233 Alberto & Amedeo Moretti Cuseri | On The Road Edition With Stevie Kim
Episode 1233

Ep. 1233 Alberto & Amedeo Moretti Cuseri | On The Road Edition With Stevie Kim

On the Road with Stevie Kim

January 14, 2023
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Alberto & Amedeo Moretti Cuseri
Road Edition
wine
documentary
italy
parenting
tourism

Episode Summary

Content Analysis Key Themes and Main Ideas 1. The multi-generational history and evolution of Tenuta Sette Ponti, a Tuscan wine estate. 2. The blend of tradition (Sangiovese) and innovation (Super Tuscans like Oreno) in Italian winemaking. 3. The significance of terroir and specific vineyard practices (e.g., Schuster system) in wine quality. 4. The personal connection and passion of winemakers to their craft and specific wine labels. 5. Expansion and diversification of wine production across different Tuscan sub-regions (Chianti, Maremma). Summary This episode of the ""On The Road Edition"" of the Italian Wine Podcast features host Stevie Kim interviewing Alberto, a representative of Tenuta Sette Ponti, a historic wine estate in Tuscany's Chianti region. Alberto details the estate's founding by his grandfather, Alberto Moretti Picus, in 1950, and its expansion into producing international varieties under his father, Antonio, leading to their renowned ""Super Tuscan"" Oreno. He explains the estate's name, ""Sette Ponti"" (Seven Bridges), linked to local history and a bridge potentially depicted in the Mona Lisa. Alberto discusses key wines like Oreno, Vigne dell'Impero (a special Sangiovese from old vines), and the new Sette (a 100% Merlot wine). The conversation also covers their Poggio al Lupo estate in Maremma, highlighting its unique terroir, wines (including Morellino di Scansano and Vermentino), and adoption of the Schuster vine training system. Alberto shares personal anecdotes, including his past in fashion designing shoes for Lady Gaga, and his deep connection to Oreno, reflecting his belief in consistency and perseverance. Takeaways * Tenuta Sette Ponti is a multi-generational family wine estate located in Tuscany, known for blending traditional and international grape varieties. * The estate's name, ""Sette Ponti"" (Seven Bridges), has historical significance, with one bridge rumored to be in Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa. * ""Oreno"" is Tenuta Sette Ponti's signature ""Super Tuscan,"" predominantly Merlot, reflecting the estate's pursuit of high-quality international wines. * The estate also produces traditional Sangiovese wines, including the significant ""Vigne dell'Impero"" from very old vines planted by the Italian royal family. * Tenuta Sette Ponti has expanded its operations to other Tuscan regions, such as Maremma with the Poggio al Lupo estate, producing wines suited to diverse terroirs like Vermentino and Morellino di Scansano. * Innovative vineyard techniques, such as the Schuster system, are employed to enhance wine quality and production. * Winemakers, like Alberto, have deep personal connections to their wines, seeing them as reflections of their values and history. Notable Quotes * ""Alberto is the first generation thanks to our architect crown father that his name was Alberto Morete Picusin. And, he fell in love for, and he bought, he purchased, in nineteen fifty."

About This Episode

Speaker 2 and Speaker 3 discuss the history and characteristics of the wine industry in Tuscany, Italy. They share their own experiences with their own wines and their grandfather's interest in the wine industry. They also discuss the success of their wine brand and their favorite wines, including a specific type called a sangiter's wines. They emphasize the importance of consistency and good quality in high-end wine and mention the importance of running winery. They end with a promotion for a wine study and a book on Italian wine.

Transcript

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My name's CV Kim, and welcome to Italian wine podcast on the road. It is and we are back to one of our favorite regions. Of course, it's Tuscany. And today, in particular, we're in the area of Canti. It's between actually Rizzo and Florence. And we are here the historic state of and they have two additional states, two other states in Tuscany, which we'll talk about. Today, we are going to be mostly talking to the two siblings, the two brothers. No. I guess I'd like to, why don't you tell us about three generations? It really started with another person named Alberto. Yeah. So I think it's appropriate that you start and give us an overview of What does it mean? Yes. Yeah. It's true. Alberto is the first generation thanks to our architect crown father that his name was Alberto Morete Picusin. And, he fell in love for, and he bought, he purchased, in nineteen fifty. So second generation was born in this country house, and we were born in ten fifty points. So I bet that was your grandfather. How did the wine estate start? Our grandfather, fell in love from this place, and, he purchased in in that that moment, and when he purchased, he decided that he was, like, having an overview of country. Overview was love for wine, obviously, love of olive to have a great olive oil because he was crazy also for food. He he was completely, in love for everything was, like, staying together with the family around the table, appreciate the good thing that our Tuscany County House can give. So I bet, though, how long have you started in the wine business? When did you join the wine company? I have two answer of this. In terms of really starting and joining the company, two thousand sixteen, in terms of, growing up in, a wine company, I can say that since Yank time, because our father always talk and discuss about twine with us and and say, okay, try this and that. What do you think? So, until I could, try wine. So here in Italy, we can since the eighteen years old. So so relatively new. In fact, you know, when I Google, you know, your name, sometimes I see names like Lady Gaga or Elton John, next to your name. And why is that? This is your previous life. Right? Because we have a part of business infection and, and in shoes. At that time, I was on, on this brand with my name, and I have the opportunity to to sell some particular shoes to Antonio John. And then I have the opportunity to design the shoes for a lady gaga because chef to launch his own perform. And, she gave this challenge to some design me, and and in the end, though, I was lucky that she choose my issues. Alberto, your grandfather started the the wine business, if you will. Right? They stayed. He started it. Right? Yeah. With sangiovese. With sangiovese. And then your dad, his name is Antonio. All of a sudden, he decided to go full force with starting your own wine estate, right, with wine labels. What my father realized is that the area was giving, like, very good quality wine. So there was, like, this huge trends at end of the eighties beginning of nineties of preventing new variety, international variety, you know, you know, the the phenomenal, like, of a super tuscan. And so he wanted to see if Tinutasetti Puonte was a great terrier for a Merlo cabernet sauvignon cabernet Frank, m p t bordeaux, and see what's going on. So he started the beginning of the nineties to plant in these varieties, and the first, crignola came out in nineteen ninety eight, and then we have first vintech of Oren in nineteen ninety nine. He really had this dream to do, like, a very good quality international wine. In an area where back in time, there was none any of these international grape varieties. It was only mainly San Giovanni in this area. So yesterday, we went to, and that is one of part of the seven bridges. Bridges. Yeah. And it and in fact, your name of your company, Citi Ponte. Exactly. Do do you want to tell us a little bit about the meaning behind Where we have this name? Because we are jackson in the middle of this very old road. The road used to connect Florence to arezzo, and it's actually a road that is dated back, like, one thousand years ago. So it's a it was very important back in time, and it still is today because it's a main road. And, these seven bridges that were crossing actually the river, you know, for a seven time, of course. And, we have, like, the best kept, which is very close to our vineyards. It's called Ponte Briano. And, it's actually famous because it was been And tell us why it's famous. You studied Wikipedia. So tell me why it's famous. Ricky says that he was very famous. No, because it's actually paint. It's really another da vinci got, like, the backgrounds of the Mona Lisa. So if you go to Louvre, unfortunately, in Paris, because it's their Mona Lisa, and you notice in the background we have this beautiful bridge and the river. So what is your signature wine for for Satepante? For me? Or Yeah. Not for you. For you, Oreno. For me, Oreno. Yeah. And for and for the other Oreno too. Yeah. But your dad Even for even for my even for even We can talk about it. He's not here. For my dad, that is the person that in the last, over almost thirtieth, sorry, almost thirtieth of wine father, all kids for him, you know, all these kids. So, obviously, when we ask to him, it's very difficult to have an answer because each time that he try and he's going to close one line, he's in love for that twine. And then arrive the other, like, arrive another child, and now he's talking and is focused on that twine. So for him, You say it's the the the the quest of poverty will be much more difficult. So Odeno is just for our audience who are less familiar with your wines. It is your super tuscan wine. And in a way, it does exemplify, your, your wine estate and that it does characterize. And perhaps, you know, the the success behind Cete Ponte is exactly oreno. You have, you have also another wine which, which is. Yes. And. It's like, I use, another time, my father expression. You always love to say, our, for two reason. First reason, because it's a sangiovese that have to be more like drinkable and easy to drink if we compare to the old, very old style of sangiovese when they were born. And plants, because from our historical, sangiovese clone. We create the new clone of granola. Over these, we have a little smooth touch of our fantastic merlot that give this, like, velvet, aspect and touch. Are you enjoying this podcast? There's so much more high quality wine content available for mama jumbo shrimp. Check out our new wine study maps. Our books on Italian wine, including Italian wine unplugged, the jumbo shrimp guy to Italian wine, sangiovese Lambrusco, and other stories, and much much more. On our website, mama jumbo shrimp dot com. Now back to the show. The Merlo is like ten percent. I can't remember. It can be maximum of ten percent from five to ten. It depends. Depends the vintage. Yes. So your dad, however, has a special he he he has a special I would say love for another wine, which is called. It's a smaller production. Very small production. Yeah. But it's very significant for him. Yeah. And it's very, very important to him. First of all, I think because it's, the reason why my grandfather fall in love with the with Santa seti Ponte. Because when we came here for the first time, he immediately saw this beautiful vineyard that was planted in nineteen thirty five by the Italian royal family. Because Santa seti Ponte was owned by Savoya Ofta, who back in time were the Italian rail family. And it's, we kept this beautiful old vines. And from these vines, we recreate all the clone and the silitsoni Masale, and we replanted all the sangiovese that we have in this state. So Vigna Delin Perot is a very small production around six thousand, seven thousand bottles, and it only comes from these three hectares of very old vines. And I remember when we did the presentation for the first time in two thousand twelve, like my father was almost a tease because he remembered his father's. And he said that he basically did this wine remembering his his father. And then you have another wine, a new wine. And it's called sette. I and I originally thought sette was because it's called sette ponte, but it's not because of that. Seven. And it's a new wine and tell us about the new one. It will be actually released for the first time in October. Mhmm. So, we're very excited about it. Seti school setting because in tenuto City Ponte, we have seven Mirlo per cells. Each located in every in different location, and they have their own, peculiarities. But every vintage, we will select two maximum three of those of the seven, and we make a hundred percent Mello coming from only two or three parcel. So this is a new project. And why in Merlo? Merlo, because considering Moreno is more than fifty percent of Merlo. So We really have a good quality Merlo here. The terrace and the soil is very good for Merlo. It's also good for San Jose, which need a completely different terrace from Merlo because Merlo needs a Arjilla, and, Sanjay needs more Galestra, which is the white clay. It what is very special here that we have both this kind of soil, which gives a great quality wine. And Merlo, that goes always been always went to Moreno. We wanted to show how good is the Merlo here, and that's the the best way is doing like hundred percent below. If you were to, describe your personality with one of the labels from which one it would be? I think I would go for, for Moreno. But not because, like, it's a very important, high end wine, but because over the time, it has been, like, consistency, like, the good quality is always, like You think you're consistently good. Yeah. I, yeah, I'm I'll I I hope so, but I, no, I like to be perseverance on something. You know what I mean? Like, perseverance. Yeah. You know, like, I love I also love running. I did Maratone, ultra marathon, and it's helping a lot to have, like, a kind of, discipline. Disciplined. Yes. What about you like that, Donna? Unfortunately, I have to say they I have to give you the same answer for me. It's, arena, one hundred percent. And but e even for many reason, but obviously it's because it's for me every year. Wow. Yeah. So I have to be I love to have an emotion, strong emotion. Now, you know, I would like to move on to, other estates because you do have two additional estates. They're fairly new compared to Sateponte in Tuscany. Would you like to tell us about that, my birthday? Yesterday, we went to Marima, for example. Tell us where Marima is for for our Obviously, it's it's Marima, it's a big part of Tuscany, very close to the sea. And where we were yesterday, we were at almost this south part of, Marima, where we are based, it's Mariano in toscana. So in this beautiful high hill, so we were hop above this place that was, like, very strong and very powerful, energy from, the real marim because means, like, in this top of couple of hills over there, we think for sure last century or at the start of the last century were, wolves. Mhmm. Because lupo means wolf in English. And what what wines are you producing there? We produce poggio Alupo. Mhmm. That is the name of the winery. And with the name of the winery, we have three different. Let's start with our famous, cab, cab, cab, cab, cab, and then we have typically, from that area, there is a kind of sangiovese, and we call Morellino Discansano. Alright. Which is the DC, which is the Yes. Thank you. Yes. It's the DC of the area. Plus, a lovely Vermentino on the different parts of the land that yesterday, we have the pleasure to see. So one part with a chalky white soil, very mineral and really very whites, Moving on the other side of, the hill, we can see this very iron, red chalky soil of, clay, for the red carbonate, that you see, cabernet sauvignon. And next to that. We are waiting for the company Frank. And also the Vermentino had had a special type of training, right, Vine Train? Yesterday, we saw, and it's very interesting. This, new system that thanks to Schuster. We activate what they call Who is Schuster? I think it's one of the king, in the world in terms of, making a agronomist for wine on the ground. We used to cross the part of leaves even if they call on, it's the same system. But when the leaves goes up, we cross, and we make, like, a y. And I say, why? Why? Why it is? To give both sun to the leaves. And yesterday, we said, wow, but, yeah, it's full of sun, you know. Yeah. It's very sunny. And they say that it's a way to give better the sun to the open leaves as much as possible to the end, and this helps quality, but even more, the quality with a good balance of production to produce maybe more. But let's say it's a very, like, handmade artisanal way. Okay. And then last thing before you go, you brought us to the convent and you gave us in Bella, and then you gave us a kind of the inside. You first of all, we discovered how to say Gillio in English. Yes. It it's a beautiful flower that we saw on the top of the column. Right. Obviously, there is many sense of the flower, especially in, in Florence, and where we live in Tuscany, especially from the recent arena sense. Period. At Virginia, this flower is it's linked to your winery. Completely because from there, when my, my father went to see they they take him because it's really beautiful convent in the middle of a piece of country on the top of the hill. So when you're right there and you see this column, you're you're you're, you're, like, shocked about how be how beautiful are. And then he saw this fantastic beautiful details of this flower on the top of the colony. Okay. This will will work and will be our logo of all the wine of Pojaloupe. Listen, I bet I'm going to let you go, and then I will continue with Amadea with Orma. Okay? Okay. Goodbye. Thank you. Okay. I don't want you to miss your plane. Thank you for joining us on another installment of On The Road Edition, hosted by Stevie Kim. Join her again next week for more interesting content in the Italian wine scene. You can also find us at Italian wine podcast dot com. Wherever you get your pods, you can also check out our YouTube channel, mama jumbo shrimp to watch these interviews and the footage captured of each location.