Ep. 1803 Tommaso Chiarli Of Cleto Chiarli | Slow Wine 2023

The Italian wine podcast is the community driven platform for Italian winegeeks around the world. Support the show by donating at italian wine podcast dot com. Donate five or more Euros, and we'll send you a copy of our latest book, my Italian Great Geek journal. Absolutely free. To get your free copy of my Italian GreatGeek journal, click support us at italian wine podcast dot com, or wherever you get your pots. Welcome to this special series dedicated to slow wine held in bologna in March twenty twenty three. During the fair, we conducted several interviews with some very exciting producers. We were able to pull out some of more interesting elements of Italian wine within the slow wine movement, tune in each week on Italian wine podcast. Here we are again with another fantastic producer from. Yeah. Where are you from? From Kleto Kiali winery, and my name is Thomas. I'm I'm part of the family, the Kiali family. I'm the fifth generation in the winemaking company. Fantastic. So we are actually we we brought you here as well because cause. We have you as one of our benchmark producers in the Italian wine unplugged book two point o, which is our second edition. It's for all wine lovers, but, we have a lot of students that are very interested in learning more about different grapes different by and different wines. Your winery, produces a Lambrusco de Sabarra and a Grasparosa. Grasparosa variety. Exactly. So these are two varieties from a Lambrusco world. They're two specific clones. And they grow in different areas in the province of Modena. And in our winery, we produce both of these varietals. Where is exactly your winery? So the Clato Cali winery is, located in Castel Vethor de Modena, which is a small village in the south part of the province of Moderna. So between, Modena and Bologna. That's the exact name of the winery, was born in two thousand and one. But the Cali family has been producing a Lambrusco since eighteen sixty. Jesus. So, therefore, we represent the oldest winery in Emilia Romania in the region. So it's a very historical company, winemaking families since five generations. So you are the son? A grandson? Or are they are you? No. No. So in fact, we go back five generations. So So you are the youngest? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We call it Tris nonna. Tris nonna. Okay. Wow. It's the romantic part of the Italian culture, like the wine culture. It's like we have all these generations. So, actually, actually, let's talk about your wines outside of Italy to you guys. How much how many how many labels do you make? So the the Clito Cali winery, works from, only with hundred percent of our grapes. And, we reached a production last year, a record production of just a little, below a million bottles. Oh my gosh. Okay. We've been growing a lot since two thousand and one with specific production. Okay. We export roughly forty percent of the total production. USA, of course, is the biggest market for us. Scandinavian countries are also embracing this, this new type of Lamruzco, which is not new. It is the traditional Lamruzco. Of course. And how many how many labels in total? Labels in total. We have in the core range around seven. Coming back to America, Vine Italy International Academy, the ultimate Italian wine qualification will be held in New York City from four to six March twenty twenty four. Have you got what it takes to become the next Italian wine ambassador? Find out at benitely dot com. So it is not a master place. No. It's just, but it's a lot. Okay. It's a lot. It's a lot. Okay. But you have to think about the Lambrusco world. Lambrusco is is characterized by different varietals, different clones that are extremely different from each other. So from from each clone, you can scatter different styles. Okay. So now you're getting into the the science stuff. I want to know if I was a student of, Italian wine, and I wanted to go a little bit deeper. And I wanted to learn about, Lamusco di sorbada in tell me something a student would wanna know that's interesting, that's useful. So, Lambrusco varietals in general, one of the most, I'll talk to knows. It's been producing this era for a long time, Roman time, etruscan times. Okay. Specifically, the Lambrusco de Sorbar varieto. I would like to put a focus on that. Is a very interesting grape for many reasons. Firstly, it is extremely wild. It has some difficulties in the pollination. Therefore, you need another varietal to kinda cross pollinate the Lambrusco de Sarvarra, the salami no varietal, yeah, another Lambrusco varietal. The shape of the grape bunch is quite funny. So you got, of course, ten, fifteen percent of the berries that do not write in the season. Yeah. Yeah. So they remain white within the red grape bunch. So it's quite a Yeah. A funny, a funny type of, of, of gray bunch. And, because of this very, ancient archaic characteristics, the wine is extremely unusual and and new. It is a red wine that has, the body of a white wine, especially a white one from, let's say, higher, altitudes despite the fact that grows in a very low land, few myths, not like that. You've got a lot of acidity in this type of wine. And, so for for wine students, it is a quite a unique grape variety. Yeah. And so with that, I'm gonna ask you something totally different that ties in. What's your favorite food? My favorite food? Your favorite food on the planet. Ah, I like pizza. Oh, okay. Basic, but nice. It is it is very good. What kind of pizza? Pizza with the spicy salami. Oh, wow. Okay. Like this. Yes. Okay. Okay. Does it pair with Lambrusco de cervara? Yours. No way, Lambrusco de cervara, but with the Grasparosa. It does. The deeper red, lambbrusco's are interesting because they've got this this bold body. They've got tannins. They've got acidity. They are sparkling. And all of, the balance of all of these characteristics is extremely nice with anything savory. Most of the time, fat, with fat food. But also spicy food. Spicy food is hard to pair with wine. And and Lambruscois are also, parable with with spicy food. Thank you so much. It was really lovely to meet you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. From the Cleto Tiali winery. Everybody. Perfect. Bye bye. Listen to the Italian wine podcast wherever you get your podcast. We're on SoundCloud, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, EmailIFM, and more. Don't forget to subscribe and rate the show. If you enjoy listening, please consider donating through Italianline podcast dot com. Any amount helps cover equipment, and publication costs. Until next time.