Ep. 2444 Valentina Severinova IWA interviews Vittorio Garda of Sorpasso and Cantina della Serra in Piemonte | Clubhouse Ambassadors' Corner

It's very important for me the freedom to make a mistake because, mistakes are what make you grow, you know, I think my my experience, growth in my life tends to the, to the mistake. And in Canada, so the seller where I work three to four day per week, and so past so that my seller, I have the same freedom to work at the same freedom to wrong, to mistake. And this is very good for me. Welcome to the special club house session of the Italian wine podcast. Listen in as members of the Italian wine community engage in fascinating conversations about contemporary wine topics. If you enjoyed the show, please consider donating through italian wine podcast dot com, and remember to subscribe and rate the Italian wine podcast wherever you get your pods. Hi, everyone. My name is Beatrice, and welcome to it Alan Wine's Ambassador Corner. Our clubhouse has been ranking the top among Italian when podcast shows. The show's concept is to let Italian When ambassadors have the opportunity to interview their favorite producers. This is an episode that gives them a free hand to ask any questions to their selected producer. This session is recorded and will be released in Italian One podcast to reach more listeners. And especially for those who cannot participate due to time zone differences. Today, guest host is Valentina Severinova, an Italian when Ambassador based in Moscow, Russia, working as a sales manager of industrial packaging Five years ago, Valentina decided to dive into wine. She has her own wine import startup project, wine tasting club, and teaches Italian wine at Sommelier School, work as a buyer for distributors and helps them with portfolios. She is also a wine journalist and a blogger promoting Italian wine on the Russian market. Today, she's gonna interview Vitorio Garda of Surpazo Karima and Cantina Suttale de La Sarah in Pumonte. So Valentina Victoria, how are you doing guys? Hi, I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. Perfect. Valentina, are you ready for our three result questions? Yes. Sure. Perfect. So, Valle, how did you discover these two wineries, sir Paso and the Cantino Sotale de Lacera? By chance, two years ago, I was invited to to take part, in the wine event called rewind and they went was organized, by Joanne Vigna Yulikana Vazani. It's a group of young producers of Karima Kanaleza and And this group of Jan producers was lead by Victoria Garda, our guest today from Surpasse and his friend, John Markoviana from MonteMeleto. I was fortunate to taste all the wines from, twenty four young wineries producing Karima, Kanaveza, and Erbaluche, and I made special note of the wines of surpass and to continue to Charlie de La Sarah. That was how I I discovered the wines made by Victoria. Wow. That's so fascinating. So tell us why did you select Victoria as your guest today? I selected Victoria because I think that he, produced modern wines and modern wines, usually wine, fine subtle. And, Carremazon is very different from Victoria is one of the best wine makers from this area and other young producers. He's making these modern wines and, he's writing a new contemporary history of the very tiny wine region with heroic Viticulture. A Victoria and his wine are the young and currently he's dedicating his life to the development of unique wine region as I told and to the rest operation of this population whose abandoned terraces were almost a forgotten dream. This is one exciting thing. And another interest is his journey as a producer which he began and continues at containers to Charlie de La Sarah. I'm making all types of wines from El Balcci. I mean, sparkling steel, passito. And we know that Italian whites are still underrated in other world, not Italy. And her balochi is one of the white with great potential and it has a flexibility that one would be hot pressed to find in other grapes around the world, I think. And I think, wine people should be familiar with Air Baluchi Stiles, and we need to discuss how to raise popularity of wines from this variety. What are the learning objectives, Valentina, that we should expect from this interview? We discussed the difference in terror between the wines of Karema and Alta p monitor in spite of the fact that Karema belongs to Canvasa formally not Alta p monitor. We discussed cause the difference between Nebula Karaima and Nebulaa. And we also touch on the styles of white wines from her. Okay. That sounds like a really good plan. So it's time for me to mute myself. And now I'm turning over the floor to you Valentina. Guys have a nice interview, and we will hear us later. Charles Victoria, just before we start, please tell us briefly about your wine experience and your wine road. Thank you for the invitation. And thank you for inviting me, and thank you, Beatresha. It's a very pleasure to be here. And my goal from, many, many here is to produce wine in, in Canada. Because, I studied a lot of fear, in Laangia, so in the central part of Piedmont. The most thing was, difficult to area in Piedmont. But my dream, my goal was to produce wine in Canada. Because Canada is my, it's my land, it's my place, you know, where, where I was born. So my dream for the future is top now. I work in, in Canada, but, my goal is to work many day more and many week more in Karima because Karima is is the place of my hub. I'm very proud of my of my village because Karima is the place where I work. It is also the place where I live. So this is my goal. So to continue to work in the wine, but, with more concentration in current. Okay. And you present us two wineries today surpass your winery project and continue the La Sarah where you are an technologist. What do these, your estate share in common and what makes each state special? In the call, I think, the freedom, to work, the freedom to experiment, the freedom, in generally, you know, warm, you know, freedom of choice. Like the song of, of Deepgram. I like the, I like the song, you know, principally, I like the show, the choice to make a one in particular way. I don't like, standard, identification. And I love to experiment every year, you know. But also, it's very important for me the freedom to make a mistake because, mistakes are what make you grow. You know, I think that my my experience, growth in my life tends to the, to the mistake. And in Canada, so the seller where I work three to four days per week and surpassed my seller, I have the same freedom to work at the same freedom to wrong, to mistake. And this is very good for me. Cool. And you make wine in two diff two neighboring wine regions, carrement, Erbaloocci de carrement, especially carrema, for me seems very traditional. Have, grape growing winemaking techniques in this region changed in the last ten years. And if yes, how changed? Very close because, Karima is located in Canada as you know. And also the the history is, the same. It's very similar. No. It's not the same, but it's similar. But the wine is different. And, if in, we change a lot in the last ten here. In cameras, all the same. So the system of cultivation, the type of pruning, the quantity of different plant in a single video, that's the same. And also, the traditional to make a wine don't change. Obviously, change little b for, for example, detention for the, use of the energy, for the ambient, like, a sustainability, you know, change for the time in the cellular to improve the quality. Yes. But in general, in Krama, we don't change a lot in the last ten here, but we don't change a lot in the last I think fifty hundred here. In Canada, we have a different history because in Canada tends to many industry, like, for example, probably the one of the most famous typewriter producer in the world that was located in Brea. Ybrea is the capital of, current area. Tends to the technology of the industry, also the difficult to change a lot. And special for the kind of, system of motivation. For example, in the last twenty, thirty year in Canada, come. So many, many vineyard