Ep. 2482 Juliana Colangelo interviews Audrey Frick of Jeb Dunnuck and Ryan Goydos of SuperVinoBros | Masterclass US Wine Market
Episode 2482

Ep. 2482 Juliana Colangelo interviews Audrey Frick of Jeb Dunnuck and Ryan Goydos of SuperVinoBros | Masterclass US Wine Market

Masterclass US Wine Market

September 29, 2025
2167.693
Audrey Frick, Ryan Goydos
Wine Market
wine

Episode Summary

<think> I need to create a concise content analysis of the provided podcast transcript, following the specific format requested. Let me break down what I need to do: 1. Content Analysis with: - Key Themes (max 5 points) - Summary (max 200 words) - Key Takeaways (max 6 points) - Notable Quotes (max 3) - Follow-up Questions (max 3) The text is a podcast transcript featuring Juliana Colangelo interviewing Audrey Frick (wine critic from Jeb Dunnuck) and Ryan Goydos (from SuperVinoBros, a digital wine content creator). They discuss the evolving landscape of wine criticism and digital content creation in the wine industry. Let me analyze the key themes first: 1. The evolving relationship between traditional wine criticism and digital content creation - The podcast explores how traditional critics like Audrey (who writes for Jeb Dunnuck) and digital creators like Ryan (SuperVinoBros) approach wine communication differently but complementarily. 2. The social nature of wine consumption - Both guests emphasize that wine is fundamentally a social experience that's difficult to replicate online. Ryan specifically mentions hosting in-person events because "wine is meant to be shared" and "requires people to be around other people." 3. Different approaches to wine communication - Audrey describes her methodical, region-focused critical approach with scores and detailed tasting notes, while Ryan focuses on accessibility, context, and making wine less intimidating for newer consumers. 4. Reaching different demographics - Traditional critics may appeal to more established wine drinkers, while digital creators like Ryan are reaching younger audiences and introducing them to wine in more approachable ways. 5. Price as a barrier to entry - Ryan identifies price as a major frustration for consumers, especially in the artisanal/natural wine space where quality comes at a premium. Now for the summary (max 200 words): This podcast episode features a conversation between Juliana Colangelo, Audrey Frick (wine critic from Jeb Dunnuck), and Ryan Goydos (digital content creator from SuperVinoBros) exploring the evolving landscape of wine communication. They discuss how traditional wine criticism and digital content creation serve complementary roles in the industry. Audrey describes her methodical approach to wine criticism, focusing on regional context, tasting notes, and scores, while emphasizing her role as a consumer advocate. Ryan explains how digital content makes wine more accessible and less intimidating, particularly for younger audiences. Both acknowledge wine's inherently social nature that's difficult to replicate online, with Ryan noting his shift toward hosting in-person events to address this limitation. They discuss challenges including price barriers for consumers and changing consumption patterns, but express optimism about younger drinkers' growing interest in wine. The conversation highlights how both traditional critics and digital creators play vital roles in educating consumers and connecting them with producers, ultimately serving the shared goal of helping people find wines they love. Key Takeaways (max 6 points): - Traditional critics and digital creators serve complementary roles in wine communication - Wine's inherently social nature creates limitations for purely digital engagement - Digital content lowers barriers for new wine consumers but can't replace in-person tasting - Price remains a significant barrier to entry, especially for artisanal/natural wines - Younger consumers are showing increased interest in wine knowledge and regional specificity - Both critics and creators ultimately serve consumers by helping them find wines they love Notable Quotes (max 3): - "I think that wine is at its core social medium. Right? I think that wine is meant to be shared, wines are meant to be drank with people, and I think that one is an amazing social medium, and it requires people to be around other people and socialize each other." - "Our role as a critic is actually for the consumer. Right? We don't work for a brand. We don't work for the wineries. It is to try and give the consumer the best lens so that they can hopefully find a wine that they love." - "I think that, you know, not just myself, myself and my brother, excuse me. There's so many good content creators online. They're just trying to an interest maybe or like kind of give a recommendation. I think that, you know, not just myself, myself and my brother, excuse me. There's so many good content creators online. They're just making wine feel a little less scary, a little less intimidating." Follow-up Questions (max 3): 1. How can traditional critics and digital creators collaborate more effectively to reach broader audiences while maintaining their distinct approaches? 2. What specific strategies can wineries implement to bridge the gap between digital engagement and the physical tasting experience? 3. How might the wine industry address the price barrier issue while maintaining quality standards, particularly for artisanal and natural wines? Let me check the word count and make sure I'm within limits: Key Themes: 5 points - good Summary: Approximately 180 words - under 200 limit Key Takeaways: 6 points - good Notable Quotes: 3 quotes - good Follow-up Questions: 3 questions - good This analysis should meet all the requirements of the assignment. </think> **Content Analysis** **Key Themes (max 5 points)** 1. The complementary roles of traditional wine critics and digital content creators in wine communication 2. Wine's inherently social nature that cannot be fully replicated through digital channels 3. Different approaches to wine education: methodical criticism versus accessible digital content 4. Price as a significant barrier to entry for consumers, especially in artisanal/natural wine segments 5. The evolving preferences of younger wine consumers who seek both knowledge and approachability **Summary (max 200 words)** This podcast episode features Juliana Colangelo interviewing Audrey Frick (wine critic from Jeb Dunnuck) and Ryan Goydos (digital creator from SuperVinoBros) about the evolving wine communication landscape. They explore how traditional criticism and digital content serve complementary roles: Audrey emphasizes her methodical, region-focused approach with scores and detailed tasting notes as a consumer advocate, while Ryan focuses on making wine accessible and less intimidating through relatable content. Both acknowledge wine's social essence that digital platforms cannot fully capture, with Ryan shifting toward hosting in-person events because "wine is meant to be shared" and "requires people to be around other people." They discuss industry challenges including price barriers—Ryan identifies cost as a major consumer frustration in artisanal wine—and changing consumption patterns. Despite industry headwinds, both express optimism about younger drinkers' growing interest in wine knowledge and regional specificity. The conversation reveals that while critics provide authoritative guidance for established consumers, digital creators reach newer audiences with approachable content, yet both ultimately serve the shared mission of helping consumers discover wines they love through different channels and approaches. **Key Takeaways (max 6 points)** - Traditional critics and digital creators serve complementary roles rather than competing ones in wine communication - Digital platforms excel at reach but cannot replicate wine's essential social and sensory tasting experience - Price remains a significant barrier, particularly for quality-driven artisanal and natural wines - Younger consumers demonstrate increased interest in wine knowledge while seeking approachable entry points - Both critics and creators ultimately serve consumers by helping them find wines they love - Successful wine communication requires balancing expertise with accessibility to engage diverse audiences **Notable Quotes (max 3)** - "I think that wine is at its core social medium. Right? I think that wine is meant to be shared, wines are meant to be drank with people, and it requires people to be around other people and socialize each other." - "Our role as a critic is actually for the consumer. Right? We don't work for a brand. We don't work for the wineries. It is to try and give the consumer the best lens so that they can hopefully find a wine that they love." - "There's so many good content creators online. They're just making wine feel a little less scary, a little less intimidating... I think that, you know, not just myself and my brother, a lot of people just wanna know what bottle to bring home for dinner that night." **Follow-up Questions (max 3)** 1. How can wineries effectively integrate both traditional criticism and digital content strategies to reach multiple consumer segments simultaneously? 2. What specific tactics can bridge the digital-physical gap to translate online engagement into in-person tasting experiences? 3. How might the industry address the price barrier while maintaining quality standards, particularly for smaller producers targeting younger consumers?

About This Episode

The speakers discuss the importance of social media and the rise of digital content in the wine industry. They emphasize the need for context and communication in order to find the perfect balance between clean and wild elements of traditional wines. They also discuss the importance of sharing wine with followers and finding the perfect balance between clean and wild elements. The speakers stress the need for more information and context to connect with younger consumers, and emphasize the importance of being passionate about wines and avoiding past mistakes. They also mention their desire to bring wine to Italian wines and their plans for events.

Transcript

Online is good for reach. Right? You can see, you know, the algorithm pushes videos to the hundred thousand million people. Right? But I think that's the shortcomings of wine is that you can't taste it online. You can't really share it with, like, people that follow you or friends online. Right? So I'm really excited about throwing events in New York and all around the country and beyond because I think that wine is at its core social medium. Right? I think that wine is meant to be shared, wines are meant to be drank with people, and I think that one is an amazing social medium, and it requires people to be around other people and socialize each other. And so that's the kind of the thesis of throwing these events in the city. And like I said earlier, like kind of giving one context, that's kind of the theory behind doing the events like that. Right. Hello. Welcome to Masterclass US wine market with me, your host, Juliana Colangelo. This show has been designed to demystify the US market for Italian wineries through interviews with experts in sales and distribution, social media, communications, and so much more. We'll will quiz each of our esteemed guests in every episode to solidify the lessons that we've learned from the episode. So sharpen your pencils, get out your notebooks and join us this week to learn more about the US market. Hello, everybody. Welcome to Masterclass US wine market on the Italian wine podcast. Very special episode today where here live at Lovebirds in bushwick, wine shop. And I have two very special guests joining me to talk about the ever evolving topic of communications and wine. So we have the voice of traditional wine critic, Audrey Frick, of Jeb Doneik, Audrey. Thank you for being here. And then we have perhaps the next generation, if we wanna say, or the voice of the digital content creator with Ryan from Supervino Brothers. So thank you for being here. Both of you, and joining me today to talk about this evolution and communications in wine, but also now this intersection we're seeing between traditional wine criticism, digital content, and online wine content as well. So cheers first. Oh, cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. We're drinking Lambrisco, of course. It's summertime it's it's hot. So Perfect. Lots of Limbrusco. It's just so good, actually. I don't know how it's produced before. It's really good. I mean, either it's delicious. What do you think, Audrey? Love it. I love it. Yeah. Anything. Exactly. So as I mentioned, we're talking about the evolving role of wine criticism and modern wine content, but how does that shape in consumer behavior, consumption habits, what people are drinking, how they're drinking. So we're gonna talk about the evolving role of the wine and critic, versus the digital content creator. We'll talk about how digital content is driving curiosity and wine. And then, of course, Italian wine podcast, drinking Lambrusco, and we've got some great Italian wines here. So how can Italian wineries and wine marketers better leverage both platforms of the wine critic and the content creator to sell more Italian wine ultimately. So for our listeners who might not know you, Audrey, let's start with you. Just talk a little bit about your backgrounds for array into wine, but maybe more importantly, how you view your role today as a wine critic? Well, thank you so much for having us both. This is awesome. Happy to always champion wine and any voices that would in that space. My background is maybe a little I don't know that there is a traditional way into wine criticism. It's not like there's a a course you take to become a wine critic. But for me, my path was as a sommelier. I worked in Colorado auto for a gentleman named Bobby Stuckkey, for Frasca Foudemwein Incorporated. For seven years, I worked there, and under him and Carlin Carr before I moved back to New York to open a restaurant in TriBECa as the wine director, and then I had met Jeb now, gosh, almost twelve, fifteen years ago. I don't even know now. So that was my first introduction to what a wine critic is, period. So I would just come to his house when he would do large tastings that were when he was still working for the advocate and Parker, and I had no interest in doing what he did at that time. I would bring a notebook. I would try to scramble notes down Jot notes as I would open things, and I, my job was just to make sure the wine was and forth for him and keep him moving while somebody else would be talking to him. So it was a pretty unusual kind of opportunity for me to see outside of the rather narrow band, frankly, that I was in in the world of some ways. And I I think there's gonna be a lot of overlap here today. I don't think this isn't like gonna be like, you know, smackdown that I think maybe some people might be like looking for So I hate to disappoint you on that because I think both of us at the end of the day, you know, I'm seeing you a lot of your work. I love at the end of the day, our role as a critic is actually for the consumer. Right? We don't work for a brand. We don't work for the wineries. It is to try and give the consumer the best lens so that they can hopefully find a wine that they love. And if you disagree with me or you disagree with Juliana or Ryan like Cool. Sometimes that's even better because at the end of the day, it's what you wanna drink and creating a way for you to feel more comfortable in that. Any way we can get there is ultimately my goal. So I don't know if that answered your question necessarily, but I've been doing this role as a full time wine critic for the past three years. I came on full time in twenty twenty two. I cover champagne, Italy, Sonoma, and Oregon. So I have a lot of incredible what I think are the best Hawaiian. I love all my children equally, but I think I have the best Hawaiian regions in the world. So I spend about, you know, a quarter of my time on the road and then the rest of my time at home editing. And, yeah, maybe we'll get into that's kind of the short answer. Awesome. Thank you, Audrey. And, you know, I think your path is really interesting because you're coming at it from the trade side as well, starting first as a Somoye, working with Jeb and now having your own beats with Jeb as well. So that path is really interesting. Ryan, how about yourself? How did you land here today? Yes. Well, thank you so much for, having me on the on the on the Of course. Thank you for being here. I think, you know, it's cool to hear Audrey's path into wine because it's couldn't be more different than my path into wine, you know, and I think it's cool that we all find our ways into this industry. And I think that me and my brother got into it was just curiosity. You know, we were we had a friend that worked in restaurants from our childhood, you know, and he was introduced this thing of wine specifically natural wine and stuff that we're surrounded with right now. And we were just kind of intrigued on this idea of wine that didn't just taste like, you know, happening so many on from Napa Valley or, you know, from Snow or something like that. So I think that the curiosity kind of led to us. Me and my brother just wanting to spend time with each other, drinking a lot of wine. Then we, one thing led to another, we started posting videos online. And yeah, we find ourselves today just, again, doing the same thing we used to be doing was just taste one on camera and sharing our experiences with other people. So I would say, like, the journey into it was, kind of a winding one, but we landed on, wine content creators, I guess, the best way to put it. Love it. And again, you both are coming from such different backgrounds and how you landed here. But with that same commonality of introducing people to great new wines. So let's talk a little bit about your approaches, because I imagine there's some differences and probably some similarities. So, Audrey, let's start with you with, you know, let'