Ep. 2495 Barbara Fitzgerald interviews Kaleigh Theriault of NielsenIQ | Masterclass US Wine Market
Episode 2495

Ep. 2495 Barbara Fitzgerald interviews Kaleigh Theriault of NielsenIQ | Masterclass US Wine Market

Masterclass US Wine Market

October 13, 2025
2724.2317
Kaleigh Theriault
Wine Market
wine

Episode Summary

<think> I need to create a concise content analysis of the provided podcast transcript, following the specified format. Let me first understand what the text is about. This is a podcast episode transcript from "Masterclass US Wine Market" where Barbara Fitzgerald interviews Kaleigh Theriault from NielsenIQ. Kaleigh has been with NielsenIQ for nearly 10 years, with the last 5 focused specifically on beverage alcohol. The discussion covers current trends in the US wine market. Key topics discussed in the podcast: 1. Moderation is shaping not just how much people drink but also what they drink and how they drink 2. Evolution of premiumization with tighter wallets (consumers trading up but looking for value) 3. Economic pressures pushing people to prioritize (inflation, financial anxiety) Let me identify the main themes, summarize the content, extract key takeaways, notable quotes, and formulate follow-up questions. **Key Themes:** 1. Moderation trends - Consumers aren't abandoning alcohol but becoming more intentional in their choices 2. Premiumization evolution - Consumers trading up but seeking value, with a focus on authenticity and craftsmanship 3. Economic pressures - Inflation and financial anxiety changing purchasing calculus but not stopping purchases 4. Changing consumer demographics - Shift toward younger consumers (Gen Z) and the need for brands to adapt 5. Format innovation - Growth in alternative formats (canned wine, wine-based RTDs, smaller bottle sizes) **Summary:** The podcast discusses current trends in the US wine market based on NielsenIQ data. Kaleigh Theriault notes that while the wine industry has been struggling with declining sales post-COVID, there are nuanced trends emerging. Moderation is becoming more prevalent, but it manifests differently for different consumers (health, cost savings, or premiumization). Premiumization continues with consumers seeking quality over quantity, with the $15-$25 price point emerging as a sweet spot. Economic pressures are causing consumers to prioritize alcohol purchases differently, with many cutting back in other areas to maintain their alcohol spending. The industry is seeing shifts toward white wines (especially Prosecco for spritz occasions), growth in non-alcoholic wine options (8% growth for Italian non-alcoholic wine), and interest in alternative formats like smaller bottles and wine-based ready-to-drink cocktails. Younger consumers are driving many of these changes, requiring brands to adapt their labeling, marketing, and product offerings to connect with this demographic. **Key Takeaways:** 1. Consumers are moderating alcohol consumption but in diverse ways - some for health, some for cost, and some as part of premiumization (preferring fewer high-quality drinks) 2. The $15-$25 price point represents a sweet spot where consumers perceive good value for premium quality 3. White wines (particularly Prosecco) are performing better than reds, driven by spritz occasions and lighter drinking preferences 4. Non-alcoholic wine is growing (8% for Italian non-alcoholic wine), with major brands entering the space to maintain consumer rituals without alcohol 5. Younger consumers respond better to simpler, more transparent labeling and fun, approachable branding rather than traditional elegant labels 6. Alternative formats (smaller bottles, wine-based RTDs) are gaining traction as consumers seek portion control and convenience **Notable Quotes:** 1. "Overwhelmingly, I think it's over sixty almost seventy percent of consumers actually prefer to drink one to two high quality drinks over five value drinks." 2. "The biggest thing with moderation is that it looks different for every consumer. One person might be moderating for health and wellness reasons. Another consumer might be moderating for cost savings... Another consumer might actually be moderating because of premiumization." 3. "Wine can be fun and I think it's positioning it in that way... I sometimes enjoy putting ice cubes in my wine - don't come after me." **Follow-up Questions:** 1. How can traditional wine producers effectively communicate their heritage and authenticity while still appealing to younger consumers who prefer simpler, more approachable branding? 2. What specific strategies should Italian wine producers implement to better connect with Gen Z consumers in the US market? 3. How might the growth of non-alcoholic wine options impact the traditional wine market in the long term, and what should producers be doing now to prepare? Now I'll craft this into a concise analysis within the word limits specified. </think> **Content Analysis** **Key Themes (max 5 points)** 1. Moderation as a multifaceted trend - Consumers are becoming more intentional in their drinking habits, but motivations vary (health, cost savings, or premiumization) 2. Premiumization evolution - Consumers trading up to $15-$25 price point where quality and value align, with preference for fewer high-quality drinks over more value options 3. Format innovation - Growth in alternative formats including smaller bottles (187ml), canned wine, and wine-based ready-to-drink cocktails 4. Generational shift - Younger consumers (Gen Z) driving changes in preferences, requiring different branding approaches and retail experiences 5. Economic prioritization - Consumers cutting back in other areas to maintain alcohol spending, with thrivers (higher-income consumers) driving most wine category sales **Summary (max 200 words)** The podcast discusses current US wine market trends based on NielsenIQ data. Despite overall industry declines post-COVID, nuanced patterns are emerging. Moderation is prevalent but manifests differently across consumers—some for health, others for cost savings, and some as part of premiumization. The $15-$25 price point has become a sweet spot where consumers perceive quality and value alignment. White wines, particularly Prosecco, are outperforming reds due to spritz occasions and lighter drinking preferences. Non-alcoholic wine is growing (8% for Italian non-alcoholic variants), with major brands entering the space to maintain consumer rituals. Younger consumers respond better to simpler, transparent labeling and fun branding rather than traditional elegant labels. Alternative formats like smaller bottles and wine-based RTDs are gaining traction as consumers seek portion control and convenience. Economic pressures are causing consumers to prioritize alcohol purchases differently, with higher-income "thrivers" driving most wine sales despite general financial anxiety. The industry is at a "trough" of decline that's leveling off, with potential for stabilization if brands can connect with younger demographics and adapt to changing consumption occasions. **Key Takeaways (max 6 points)** - Consumers increasingly prefer 1-2 high-quality drinks over multiple value options (70% preference) - Prosecco is thriving by successfully positioning itself in the cocktail/spritz occasion space - Non-alcoholic wine is gaining legitimacy as taste profiles improve, with major brands entering the space - Younger consumers respond better to simple, transparent labeling and fun, approachable branding - Understanding the distinction between the shopper (who buys) and consumer (who drinks) is critical for marketing success - Alternative formats (smaller bottles, wine-based RTDs) address portion control needs and emerging drinking occasions **Notable Quotes (max 3)** - "Overwhelmingly, I think it's over sixty almost seventy percent of consumers actually prefer to drink one to two high quality drinks over five value drinks." - "The biggest thing with moderation is that it looks different for every consumer. One person might be moderating for health and wellness reasons. Another consumer might be moderating for cost savings... Another consumer might actually be moderating because of premiumization." - "Wine can be fun and I think it's positioning it in that way... I sometimes enjoy putting ice cubes in my wine - don't come after me." **Follow-up Questions (max 3)** 1. How can traditional wine producers effectively communicate heritage and authenticity while appealing to younger consumers who prefer simpler, more approachable branding? 2. What specific strategies should Italian wine producers implement to better connect with Gen Z consumers in the US market beyond just labeling changes? 3. How might the growth of non-alcoholic wine options impact traditional wine sales long-term, and what should producers be doing now to prepare for this potential shift?

About This Episode

The industry is experiencing declines in the white wine category, with some declines coming on the champagne side. The success of traditional wines and the importance of transparency in retailers' presentations is also emphasized. The industry is experiencing declines in sales trends, but the industry is optimistic about the growth of gifting products and the importance of transparency in marketing. The industry is also experiencing declines in sales trends, but the industry is optimistic about the growth of gifting products and the importance of transparency in marketing.

Transcript

I am really excited to welcome Kaylee Therriolts to the show, close to ten years at Nielsen IQ, and the last five years focused specifically on beverage alcohol, Kaylee Blands, analytics with storytelling to bring consumer insights to life. Our three key takeaways for this episode then and what we're excited to talk to you about are first how moderation is shaping not just how much we drink but also what we drink and how we drink. Consumers aren't necessarily abandoning out alcohol, but they are becoming more intentional in their choices. Second, we're gonna talk about the evolution of premiumization with tighter wallets. Many consumers still trading up, talking about authenticity, craftsmanship, value driven branding, that really makes premium products worth the splurge. And then third, the economic pressure that is pushing people to prioritize. So we've got inflation in this country financial anxiety. They're not stopping purchases, but they are changing the calculus. Welcome to Masterclass US wine market with me Barbara Fitzgerald. In this show, we'll break down the complexities of selling wine in the US by discussing the relevant issues of today with experts from around the globe. Each episode serves up three key insights to help elevate your wineries presence in the US market. So grab a pen and paper and let's pave the way for your success in the US. Hi, everyone, and welcome to Masterclass US wine market. Today, I am really excited to welcome Kaylee Therriaults to the show close to ten years at Nielsen IQ, and the last five years focused specifically on beverage alcohol. Kaylee Blands, analytics with storytelling to bring consumer insights to life. From industry trends to client strategy. She's been a driving force in shaping NIQ's Belt strategy and tactics. So thank you so much, Kayley, for being here. Welcome. Thank you, Barbara. I'm excited to be here. Wonderful. So before we dive into our discussion today, Kayley, can you tell us a little bit more about your background and how you came to work in the wine business or the Betalc business? Yeah. If we go back to the beginning of my career at Neil's nine q as you you Ten ten years, it will be in November. So really exciting, but I started out working on the, you know, the broader CPG side got really good experience in that analytics space. And then it was January of twenty twenty when they opened up a a role opportunity for me to join the Bob or junk alcohol protocol that we have here at Nielsen IQ. And ever since then, it's been a lot of fun, but obviously so much change has happened in these past five to six years, I would say just as much as what had happened like the twenty years previous to COVID. So a lot that we can look at and I typically look across beer wine, spirits, Rtds, the growing nano space as well. Excited to talk a little bit more specifically about wine stuff today. You must have been so excited coming into wine in twenty twenty, like, whoa. What a growing industry this is? Yes. Yes. In January at that, and then from there, it was just weekly reported on out. And the numbers were great. Everybody is having a good time at home, and that really has we'll get into it. It has really changed the way that people consume in today's day. So much as we wanna ignore all of those at home days. I think it's a it's a big influence on what we see in the trend. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, being that, you know, who in our industry doesn't love to talk about data, look at the numbers and tell the story behind them. So you are our resident expert here to do that Kayiley. Thank you so much for joining us. Our three key takeaways for this episode then and what we're excited to talk to you about are first how moderation is shaping not just how much we drink but also what we drink and how we drink. So consumers aren't necessarily abandoning alcohol, but they are becoming more intentional in their choices. Second, we're gonna talk about the evolution of premiumization. So with tighter wallet, even still, many consumers still trading up. Talking about authenticity, craftsmanship, value driven branding, that really makes premium products worth the splurge. And then third, the economic pressure that is pushing people to prioritize. So we've got inflation, in this country financial anxiety. They're not stopping purchases, but they are changing the calculus. Alright. Let's start by setting the scene a little bit, Kayley, talking some of big picture things. What is the most significant or what are, I should say, the most significant trends you're seeing in US wine sales right now, especially as we head into this key q four O and D period. Yeah. The wine industry as everybody probably knows has been struggling for the past couple of years, especially post COVID time frame. And we know that the broader industry here in the US has a little bit of a supply and demand thing happening where there's an oversupply and things like that of From the the retail sales perspective, we've unfortunately been seeing declines across the total wine industry for quite some time. And while there are pockets of opportunity, overall, the way that consumers, you know, that casual wine consumers. The way that they're approaching the wine aisle and the wine industry is a little bit different than what we've seen in the past. I think a lot of the big difference there is driven by the fact that we're not just speaking to like a wine drinker or a wine consumer anymore, but we're actually speaking to a total beverage alcohol consumer. So one big impact that we've seen on the industry is what's happening in this ready to drink category where we've got malt based and spirited based items and seltzers and a lot of fun things that are easy in a and to consume and those are really overlapping with some wine occasions that we we once saw. And so that's really impacting the trends that we're seeing in, you know, total wine. And then if we break it down a little bit between red and white feel like there's always this trend of which one is ruling, you know, supreme over time. And right now, we really are seeing the the white wine side of the business have, you know, lesser declines, I would say, not necessarily growth, but lesser declines and it's really, you know, that sweeter and lighter profile that some consumers are looking for that sort of match up to what we see trending well within that ready to drink space too, that that sessionable type of occasion, as well as what's happening with the popularity of the spritz. So a lot of things happening, a lot of different impacts, and then there's more consumer things we can dive into as well. Yeah. And quick question. Good to know that you know, white isn't feeling maybe a pinch as much as red. What about, like, Rosay and sparkling categories? Yeah. Unfortunately, Rosay is is sort of leaning more towards the red wine trends not really getting a lot of that sweeter, you know, consumer profile looking looking to purchase or anything like that. I think Rosay had its moment a few years ago and so it's starting to come back down from that popular, like, popular time frame, that really peak, I would call it. It's sort of leveling out in in its trend. And on the sparkling side, we actually see interesting trends where overall sparkling is doing okay, but a lot of some declines are coming on the front champagne side whereas what we're seeing with prossecco is actually showing some positive growth and that again is driven by that that spritz occasion that many consumers that are looking for something refreshing and cock tail, like, are leaning into in making at home. And we know Persecco is the perfect bubbly to put into something like a spritz too. Yeah. Amazing. My family is from Italy. So I've known about spritz my whole life. And for the longest time, I was like, how does no one in the US know what a spritz is and know how amazing it is. And now here it is, she's exploded onto the scene. It's here. I